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22-05-2017 19:29:43  <Framedragger>   yesssss, i know. i, too, want to rethink the whole "paradigm", gossipd onwards and upwards, et cetera. and you may be right, the whole thing may be simply impossible. true.

15-09-2016 17:23:46  <adlai>   i'd call this a gossipd competitor but it seems as though 'gossipd' means something different to each person

26-05-2016 11:03:18  <Framedragger>   re. gossipd, dunno, it's ambitious in its scope, i want to make something smaller and easier and need to define it first of course, that's part of the reason why i came back to hang around these parts, as ludicrous as that may be..

29-03-2016 02:36:43  <phf>   pff, like you told me when i was hacking gossipd in lisp with intent of translating to c, "translation is 90% of effort", same applies to "in head"

29-03-2016 02:30:48  <phf>   it can be a choice perhaps to run v and gossipd against same folder, but the idea of format and convention seem sensible

29-03-2016 02:29:52  <asciilifeform>   i would not connect v and gossipd

29-03-2016 02:29:39  <phf>   i.e. you keep your wot keys in ~/.wot, gossipd loads keys from there to talk, v loads keys from there to press. gossipd manages a list of rating/comments for those keys. all exchanges for, say, ephemeral gossip keys are verified using keys in ~/.wot

29-03-2016 02:29:14  <asciilifeform>   phf: in the unofficial gossipd spec, there is no global wot, but instead you ask your peer nodes whether they have rated $publickey

29-03-2016 02:27:55  <phf>   asciilifeform: i'm saying the way gossipd is specced and the .wot is defined there's no reason not to marry the two together

29-03-2016 02:25:21  <phf>   other thing, there's an ongoing development of tmsr convention which is ~/.wot folder with nick.asc files in it, which perhaps can be leveraged into a decentralized wot by way of gossipd presumably

29-03-2016 02:22:51  <asciilifeform>   now, in the gossipd world, there is no longer a central wot

29-03-2016 01:16:58  <phf>   ah that's a hypothetical gossipd behavior not in mp's spec

29-03-2016 01:11:56  <asciilifeform>   and in gossipd i would not have to

29-03-2016 01:07:49  <asciilifeform>   gossipd model works with whatever topology.

29-03-2016 01:05:57  <phf>   right, so gossipd solves a problem, just not the problem we're facing

29-03-2016 01:04:57  <asciilifeform>   phf: gossipd, if you recall, is made of relays, which selectively agglomerate packets into time quanta

29-03-2016 01:03:26  <asciilifeform>   and schism will cleanly resolve when gossipd, at any rate

23-03-2016 22:10:37  <asciilifeform>   i kinda wonder how this would be going down if we were using gossipd.

21-03-2016 23:50:53  <mircea_popescu>   a model mirrored in the itnended design of gossipd.

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